The Knowbodies Podcast

Know. Your. Body. We are two physical therapists passionate about creating a more informed and healthier society through speaking with leading minds in the worlds of health, fitness, and self-development. The goal is to tackle any and all subjects relating to the most dynamic organism on the planet: the human body.
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May 9, 2018

In this episode, we chat with one of our favorite people on the planet, Dr. Alan Fredendall about motivational interviewing, population health, and his personal fitness journey. Alan is a practicing physical therapist, a recent graduate, and the COO of the Institute of Clinical Excellence.

We also make a major announcement in this episode that we are giving away a FREE trip to come attend an ICE course in Pittsburgh on June 23rd and 24th to one lucky listener. If you are interested, you can enter our drawing by going to the website below:

May 2, 2018

For another fantastic multiple-appearance guest episode, we welcome back the insightful local, Jon Herting, PT, DPT, CSCS, ACSM CE-P, USAW. Jon is a dynamic clinician who has been involved in rehabilitation and strength and conditioning for 10 years and has built a reputation among athletes as a clinician who promotes quick results and optimal outcomes. 


As a Doctor of Physical Therapy and Certified Strength and Conditioning coach he has worked with athletes of all levels from adolescent to Olympic level and is a part of USA Weightlifting’s Medical staff. Jon believes in a holistic approach to rehab and believes that the ultimate goal of the rehab process is patient autonomy. He believes that there is not a distinct line between rehab and the training process.


Jon currently serves as adjunct faculty at Widener University and has developed several continuing education courses for clinicians and certified strength and conditioning professional based around assessment and rehabilitation techniques.


Discussion topics of this show:

  • How specificity can drive a one shot-one kill treatment approach can improve outcomes
  • Coordinating across multiple settings and professions to support rehab AND fitness goals
  • Framing the “PT” conversation with coaches and trainers
  • Navigating around the speed bumps that may come up with inter-professional discussions
  • The ultimate factor: Karma 
  • A solid transition into breathing and breath work matters when it matters
  • Positional breathing and owning quality movement 
  • Where is the last place you’d think to find energy when you’re dogging it??


If you want to reach out to Jon or follow him on social media you CERTAINLY must! He has some gem’s he shares across the social media platforms, find him on facebook and instagram @JonHerting. His clicic in Southern PA is A beautiful location, if you’re in the area its a must see, especially with some of the new faculty. Check out The Training Room HERE: 

Apr 25, 2018

Elliot Berkman is an Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of Oregon. His research is about the motivational and cognitive factors that contribute to success and failure real-world goals, as well as the neural systems that support goal pursuit. In addition to studying how goal pursuit works, Dr. Berkman’s research also seeks ways to facilitate health behavior change goals such as cigarette smoking cessation and dieting. His research combines the distinct strengths of several research methods including functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), cross-sectional and longitudinal survey methods, laboratory experiments, and translational neuroscience randomized controlled trials. Click here for more information about his research. He teaches courses in statistics, neuroimaging, and social psychology. His research and teaching have been recognized with the Social-Personality Health Network Early Career Award, the Joseph A. Gengerelli Distinguished Dissertation Award, the UCLA Social Psychology Dissertation Award, the Arthur J. Woodward Peer Mentoring Award and the UCLA Distinguished Teaching Award. He received his PhD in 2010 from the University of California, Los Angeles. His blog, The Motivated Brain, is located at Psychology Today, and he tweets as @Psychologician.

-Check out the SANLab website here

Show Notes:

  • What is autonomous regulation and how do we set goals for ourselves?
  • Are we at risk for being too passive with medical interventions, leaving an untapped level of autonomy and engagement on the table?
  • The influence of language and transparency of choice
  • Some key takeaways from a persons own narrative and gain deeper understanding about their decision making process
  • Navigating a subjective story of tragedy and framing a story or plan of success
  • What is an internal locus of control and how do external influences consume us
  • Bucking against perceived restraint
  • The future of behavior in our society and the influence of technology on our perception of reality
  • Read about the awesome work of Jeremy Bailenson here:
Apr 18, 2018

In this episode we sit down with Doctor of Chiropractic, Justin Rabinowitz. Justin is a movement-based Chiropractor based out of Warren, NJ and he is also the author of the recently published book, Beyond Fitness: Revealing The Secrets To An Active, Pain-Free Life.

In this episode we dive into how Justin has built his practice around a culture of movement, how he has marketed his practice, and what inspired him to publish a book. If you're interested in purchasing a copy of Beyond Fitness, you can find it here:

To learn more about Justin's practice you can check it out at:


Apr 11, 2018

The White Belt Mentality - A New Breed of SPT’s: featuring Nick Perugini 

Fusing a therapeutic approach with principles of coaching: A new hybrid of assessment, client intake, and progressions

How teachable is a “PT process?” Whats it like to really educate and collaborate with other professionals at an operational level to achieve a common mission

The white-belt mentality and the value of team transparency 

How a successful PT evaluation can create greater responsibility and autonomy from clients and coaches alike

Being a PT on the community level, going beyond the 1 on 1 care and forming a health alliance that is based on health literacy and relationships

How Nick took a stab at learning and expanding his horizon, adding responsibility as an SPT and what he’s learned about being uncomfortable as he grows

Some words of wisdom to help spin PT school or any learning experience and translate new knowledge into applicable skills

Check out Nick’s growing video archive at

follow Nick with his handles

If you’re in the #philly area and want to connect with some great folks, check out Nick’s crossfit gym,

Apr 4, 2018

In this episode, Nick and Will sit down with concierge physical therapists Josh Payne and David Bayliff. We dive into how Josh and David branched out from working in outpatient orthopedic clinics to transitioning to being cash-based mobile physical therapists, seeing patients in their home during the day. We're huge fans of finding different ways to leverage our knowledge as healthcare practitioners and this opens so many doors for those entrepreneurs amongst us!

To learn more about Josh, you can read and follow him by checking out his website: Freedom Physical Therapy

To learn more about David, you can read and follow him by checking out his website: Bayliff Integrated Wellness


Mar 28, 2018

Sam is an amazing person doing such great work for her local community, her colleagues, and for health organizations across the world. If you want to follow her work check her out at Samantha Fien on and 

We dive into the diverse background of Sam and her professional projects, including her path from a bachelors degree in exercise science to completing her PhD thesis. We discuss Sam’s research “Gait performance in residential aged care and the benefits of exercise”, winning the Emerging Researcher in Ageing (ERA) international scholarship for 2017, her international experience studying group exercise and gait metrics in older adults, and how to create a healthy, more sustainable community.

“They’ve lived for so long already, why not treat them as they are and reward them for living so long and being able to exercise, to walk, and talk, and do everything else like other human beings.” Sam on the importance of providing care for older adults

If you aren’t already calling it a “wheelie walker”, try it. It will make your day.

If you have an extra minute, please share/retweet/support Sam’s efforts to go to the World Health Assemble in Geneva in May 2018. We need people like Sam representing the hard working citizens that care about their health!

Thanks to @MegLowryPT for connecting us with Sam!

Mar 21, 2018

In this weeks episode we chat about the possible factors that drive sales in the healthcare market. Are we listening to patients and allowing their expectations to guide the subjective reports? How do we get better at the selling mindset, and does it have to be all about business? Will has been crushing the marketing and service department lately, so this episode was a really fun ride as he took us from soft skills to converting tactics. 

Mar 14, 2018

In this episode we catch up with physical therapist and Telehealth pioneer, Rob Vining of

In this episode we talk about the logistics of starting one's own Telehealth practice, the financial side (potential income vs. costs) of Telehealth, and Rob's view of Telehealth becoming a staple of the profession. 

To learn more about Telehealth and all the awesome work Rob is doing, you can check him out at:


Mar 7, 2018

In this episode Will sits down with repeat guest, Joe Reinke, CEO of FitBUX to discuss the changes that could be coming for student loan debt holders with pending government budget changes. With so many of our listeners faced with student loan debt, we felt that it was a good time to keep on top of the potential changes coming. 

Feb 28, 2018

In this episode, our 100th episode!!!!, Nick sits down with Dr. Jon Herting, PT, DPT and PT Student Nick Perugini to discuss all things mentorship, teaching, and coaching when it comes to movement, strength training, and coaching. Nick was a student of Jon's and they share some incredible insight into what makes a successful mentor/student relationship.

Feb 21, 2018

First and foremost, a huge thank you goes out to our audience and supporters. We have nearly made it to 100 episodes and for every download, share, or engagement, Will and I thank you.

When I jumped on board with this project I progressed through the feelings of curiosity and anxiety and found growth. In this episode I dive into how that growth process has influenced my endeavors, from school to podcasting, and hopefully I coherently share how its still guiding me today. - Nick

Feb 14, 2018

I decided to mix it up a little this week. Nick and I get reached out to frequently (which still boggles our mind that people want to talk to us!) and regularly get asked about our career paths. With that in mind I wanted this to be a raw, un-cut look into the different possibilities I am exploring with my healthcare background. Hope this brings some value to all our healthcare friends! - Will

Feb 7, 2018

Jared's Bio:

"I’m Dr. Jared Casazza, and I am a traveling physical therapist. I graduated with my Doctor of Physical Therapy degree in 2015 and am currently traveling for work within the U.S. in a fifth wheel camper with my girlfriend and fellow travel PT, Whitney.

Although physical therapy is how I make a living and one of my main passions, I have several other interests that I pursue in my free time. These include: financial independence, personal finance, bodybuilding/powerlifting, nutrition, supplementation, credit card rewards, travel hacking, investing, hiking, and real estate. I have an insatiable thirst for knowledge, and I hope that this blog can be a place that I can share some of what I have learned to this point.

Whitney and I will also be sharing information on our personal experiences as traveling physical therapists, the ins and outs of working as a traveling healthcare professional, and our traveling adventures both throughout the United States and internationally!"

Show Notes:

  • Jared’s initial interest in travel PT: the increased financial reward, varied exposure, and housing alternatives 
  • The stipulation to travel PT, gotta have a home base 
  • Jared’s Segway into PT school and early fitness interests- considering financial reward and profession 
  • Be willing to try something new and different, being in a team like Jared and Whitney can really help!
  • The impact researching the job market can have on beginning a great career 
  • A travel PT blueprint: Jared’s initial log term plan and motivation, where to turn for mentorship, the surprises and unimaginable exposure
  • The clinical development in a travel role, especially for a new grad
  • The FifthWheelPT blog - Blending finance, rehab, and personal growth 
  • Diving into the nickels and dimes of travel PT, and how it compares to more traditional PT routes
  • The easiest way to establish travel contracts and how to land trustworthy connections
  • Where is the future of travel PT headed?
  • Jareds advice for making your next travel experience unique, valuable, and lucrative
  • Check out Jareds growing blog and other projects he’s working on, even while he semi-retires and travels the world, at and follow him on instagram #fifthwheelpt and facebook @jaredcasazza
Jan 31, 2018

In this episode, we chat with Eric McElvenny, a former Marine who lost his right lower leg after stepping on an IED in combat while in Afghanistan. Since returning to the States, Eric has gone on to run Ironman competitions and become a motivational speaker. In this episode we dive into Eric's recovery from his right below knee amputation, including his time in physical therapy and what it took to become an Ironman.

If you're interested in learning more about Eric and his story, check out his website at:

Jan 24, 2018

In this fascinating episode we dive into all sorts of topics. From the many layers of consciousness that impact mental health, to the possible solutions our society may benefit from if we can work together to integrate a holistic health service. Our guest, Dr. Traci Stein was wonderfully informative, fun, and a real inspiration to keep reaching out to other do-gooders, because more often than not good folks tend to work well together.

Dr. Traci Stein's bio:

"I am a Columbia-trained, licensed clinical psychologist and health educator. I'm also certified in clinical hypnosis by the American Society of Clinical Hypnosis (ASCH). Broadly, my focus has been on helping people to reduce uncomfortable physical and emotional symptoms and gain greater insight into who they are and want to be. 

The bulk of my work has been with the medically ill and those experiencing chronic pain, as well as teaching people to develop better stress management tools. I have also helped clients learn how to create healthier relationships, develop better self-esteem, foster greater self-compassion, release unhealthy patterns, and reach goals that are important to them."

For show notes, Traci's incredible work, the tireless caregiver survey, and much more, please check out

Jan 10, 2018

In this episode, hosts Will Boyd and Nick Bracciante get the conversation started by reflecting what the job and career path started like for them. 

Going after your goals should always be a priority, and on this episode we also bring on the perspective from 3 amazing individuals who are all doing things a bit different then the traditional healthcare mold, but probably have some similar goals as the majority of new grads.

Tune in to get the advice from Fallon Heddings at 25 minutes, Raj Padalia at 43 minutes, and Ryan Smith at 1:11 to cover the different ways they have embarked on their path to a happy career.

Jan 3, 2018

In this special #PTedition episode, we sat down with Owner of Athletes Potential, Danny Matta. Danny is a hybrid, physical therapist/strength coach based out of the Atlanta, Georgia area. He's the host of The PT Entrepreneur Podcast and co-host of the Doc and Joc Podcast.

In this episode we chat about Danny's cash-based physio/strength training set-up, his views on the future of physical therapy, and the power of relationship building.

If you want to follow Danny or keep up with his work, check out his work:

Dec 27, 2017

In this raw episode, hosts, Nick Bracciante and Will Boyd reflect back on 2017 and discuss the highs, the lows, and pose questions to one another about changes they've undergone. We want to say thank you for an incredible year and we can't wait to keep this shipping rocking into 2018!

Dec 20, 2017

In this part 2 episode we share the most important stories of all the guests from 2017, those from our patients. We could easily say these guests brought more value to the surface of our discussion because, well, they are why we do this whole gig.

Three beautiful humans, Erin Jackson, Lisa Maczura, and Saidee Wynn joined us for very different yet powerful episodes to discuss pain, PT, and general healthcare. To say their words are valuable is an extreme understatement.

To wrap things up, we share great words of advice from Jerry Durham as he helped our careers launch in more ways than 1. Cheers to a great 2017, and a better 2018.

Dec 13, 2017

This is a throwback episode from the Breaking Student Debt Podcast in which Will sits down with Joe Reinke, CEO of FitBUX. In this episode Joe breaks down the various federal student loan repayment plan options that are available for students. As a large portion of our audience is made up of students or recent graduates, we thought this episode would be incredibly valuable for those weighing up their student loan options.


If you have any questions about your student loans or repayment plan options, reach out to Joe Reinke by messaging their Facebook Business Page:

FitBUX FB Business Page

or by creating a profile at:


Dec 6, 2017

We sincerely thank all of our listeners for a wonderful 2017!

From Will and Nick, we appreciate all the support, motivation, and creative assistance. 

And of course, we would like to thank our incredible guests. Clips from some of the most popular episodes of 2017 are featured in this collaborative "speech" if you will.

Be sure to tune into the full length episodes to learn how to support the missions and efforts of these wonderful people.

Nov 29, 2017

The world of Saidee Wynn, taken from her blog spooniewarrior 

"I didn’t choose the Spoonie life, the Spoonie life chose me.

If you aren’t sure what a Spoonie is, I urge you to look up the Spoon Theory. It’s a pretty awesome story that describes life with a chronic illness. Energy = Spoons (to sum it up in a super short way that doesn’t do the actual story justice…). It has become a symbol for those of us with chronic illnesses. Basically, we never have enough spoons.

I am currently fighting POTS, EDS, PTSD, and many other letter groupings. I feel like I’m out there trying to capture the entire alphabet!  My symptoms from these illnesses have rendered me disabled and dramatically changed the way I interact with the world. They have also forced me to redefine myself in my current roles in life.

I am the mother of a super spunky, energetic little girl. I also have an amazing partner in life, who is absolutely my rock. You’ll be learning more about them as you follow my blog, because they will obviously be the subjects of many posts."

Check out Saidee's incredible blog, recommendations and advice on her website and social media:


and "spooniewarrior" on facebook, instagram and twitter!

Show Notes:

  • Saidee is the author of - all things chronic illness and the journey of healthcare
  • EDS - Ehlers Danlos syndrome
  • Navigating healthcare with persistent symptoms
  • The tipping point of chronic pathology
  • Where do people really learn and connect over their health journeys?
  • Why medical providers should not completely divide people from their diagnosis 
  • What exactly is a spoon? And what about a spoonie?
  • Whats it like balancing the process of pregnancy and managing EDS?
  • “Ive heard of this before, but its not very common”
  • The biggest factor in a successful healthcare relationship - “If a doctor believes you”
  • Are chronic diseases “solvable” or “curable”


Keep your eyes peeled for Saidee’s upcoming blog posts, novels and more!


Nov 22, 2017


"I am a physiotherapist, chiropractor and strength and conditioning specialist treating musculoskeletal disorders within a biopsychosocial model.

I currently teach two 2-day continuing education courses to health and fitness professionals through out the world.  Reconciling Biomechanics with Pain Science and Running Resiliency have been taught more than 60 times in more than 40 locations world wide." Bio from greg

Show Notes:

  • Intro, gregs influences from Dr. Stuart McGill and Dr. John Sarno
  • How important it is to be malleable and the value of asking the challenging questions 
  • Stress test your own philosophy 
  • Harnessing the moments of doubts 
  • Build confidence by finding your OWN beliefs 
  • Keep the treatments simple! - it's evidence based 
  • When something specific IS important 
  • Gregs main question for folks: "whats new or different?" 
  • “Pain occurs when we fail to adapt to some stressor - Injury occurs when you fail to adapt to mechnical load…we don’t want to vilify stress..rather what is our response to our stressors”
  • “Calm shit down, build shit back up”

Twitter question from @theprehabguys

“How do you follow up your pain explanations? Specifically, how do you teach patience to desperate/eager patients - want answers 4 their pain”

The criteria for adaptability:

  • -Is it human?
  • -Is it dead?

Twitter question from @joelipsky

“How does Greg approach patients presenting with Sx consistent with a neurodynamic issue and how does load management come into play.”

Twitter question from @daschaser

“How does Greg approach patients presenting with Sx consistent with a neurodynamic issue and how does load management come into play.”

Twitter question from @nickgornick

  • “What are the limitations of graded exposure/adaptation?”
  • Poke the bear, don’t hump the shit out of it (we can’t come up with this stuff, honestly) Who is allowed to go into pain and how much?

Gregs HIGHLY revered course: Reconciling Biomechanics With Pain Science. Check out the 2018 dates to see how to overcome the common clinical barriers in a city near you!

Nov 15, 2017

In this episode, The Knowbodies sit down for what turned out to be a part 2 to their episode with Dr. Ben Fung, PT, DPT, MBA a few weeks back. 1 year later, after Ben was first featured on the Breaking Student Debt Podcast with Will, Ben is back diving into a host of topics:

  • How to create income outside of working in a clinic
  • How to approach creating your own practice either right out of school or early on in your career
  • Fear and how it plays a major role in us following our true interests and passion
  • What the future holds for the PT profession


-Nick and Will

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