The Knowbodies Podcast

Know. Your. Body. We are two physical therapists passionate about creating a more informed and healthier society through speaking with leading minds in the worlds of health, fitness, and self-development. The goal is to tackle any and all subjects relating to the most dynamic organism on the planet: the human body.
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May 31, 2017

Ryan's Bio: "I graduated from the University of Washington's Foster School of Business. After realizing I didn't enjoy the work I was doing (and sitting there writing excel macros thinking about how much more I would enjoy teaching people how to become strong, pain free, and move their body) I decided to make a change.

The switch lead me to the University of Western States where I earned two degrees: A master's degree in exercise and sport science and a doctorate in chiropractic.

The Movement Fix is a resource, run by me, Ryan DeBell, to help you become strong, pain free, and move your body well. I believe these are fundamental human rights.

This website is more than just a site for my services. It is a repository of videos, articles, and podcasts to help you learn more about your body and how to own your movement.”

Show Notes

  • Welcome to Ryan and the Seattle weather
  • Introductions and identity 
  • Themovementfix motivation
  • How to find blog content and target an audience
  • Open-mindedness and selfless ignorance 
  • interdisciplinary collaboration, keep an eye out for health fit biz SLACK line
  • handling the education conversation with other people
  • the weird (and accurate) conceptualization of negativity
  • A message for the people: “you only access large changes by small, daily things” 
  • The importance of behavior change and how to start the conversation
  • DEBUT: The joint efforts of Ryan DeBell and Chris Johnson - bringing strength training to the running world
  • The Amazing Race - Chris vs Ryan (1600, 400, 100m)
  • John Russin combines a variety of S&C principles that Ryan will use to prep for Themovementfix  performance challenge.
  • The best programming for muscle mass AND long term health, stay tuned...

Follow Ryan on instagram @themovementfix and visit to join his email list for regular incredible content

School prepares you for boards, The Health Fit Business prepares you for reality: The Daily Domination Journal compiles education you need to establish the systems and habits for productive and time efficient performance. FOR OUR AUDIENCE ONLY: you can get The Daily Domination Journal, crafted by the minds producing the Health Fit Business Podcast for $10 OFF ($29.99 value dropped to $19.99!) by entering Knowbodies10 when purchasing your copy online. Free shipping included in the US!

May 25, 2017

Starting a new job? Beginning a new clinical? We sat down with Jerry Durham, PT to pick his brain and seek advice on how to OPTIMIZE the first few weeks during a new PT position. Jerry has been a great mentor to many PT's and like so many of our colleagues, we deeply appreciate his wisdom and willingness to share his experiences form a patient-first perspective to healthcare.

Keys to success from this episode:

  • The mindset for the drive in during the first week
      The physical flow of the clinic
       Show up early
  • What are the managers looking for? How communication and education are perceived 
  • How to handle the "experience" conversation
  • Owning what you don't know
  • How to be accountable and using a log
  • Calming down during evaluations 
  • How to get out of our own head - be the expert you're trained to be
  • How self doubt is different than self reflection 
  • Optimizing reflection and feeling effective 
  • The potential of night journaling

Big shout out to The Institute Of Clinical Excellence, Jeff Moore, And the PT on Ice podcasts 

Follow Jerry on social media platforms @ JerryDurhamPT, tune into his podcast with Andrew Rothschild: Healthcare Disruption, and check out his website:

Interested in improving your PT education? check out to find out how you can learn from elite clinicians and bring your skills to the next level.

May 24, 2017

Sean Light is a Health and Performance Science Specialist with several years experience at the highest levels of professional athletics. Light has spent years within the New York Yankees and Arizona Diamondbacks organizations, and currently serves as the assistant S & C coach for the Los Angeles Lakers of the NBA.

Focusing on proven sciences of neurology, physiology and several other foundational sciences, Light and 4A HPS have created a revolutionary approach to therapy and human performance training.

Show Notes:

  • Sean's background, and the NBAs biggest missed opportunity 
  • Meeting Brijesh Patel of Quinnipiac Athletics 
  • Intro to Nate Shaw with the D'backs
  • Strength and conditioning and massage school?
  • Segway into the impact of Anatomy trains and PRI
  • What type of mindset does it take to apply to 32 professional sports teams
  • Sean's experience with mentorship 
  • Differentiating between certifications and experience 
  • What the inside of the Lakers weight room looks like (exercises)
  • The accelerated evolution of Sean's strengthening skills
  • Postural Restoration Institute
  • The complexity, and SIMPLICITY, of exercise prescription and progression for the Pro's
  • Special considerations for the elite athletes, and the common goals during the season
  • How important is the actual weight lifted in the room 
  • The funky neuro stuff and making athletes parasympathetic
  • Tailoring the assessment and integrating the subjective history into programming for the pro's
  • Sean's 2017 NBA champion prediction?

We hope you enjoy the episode! Please follow Sean's work (theres TONS of great articles and social media engagement) on Facebook, snapchat, instagram, twitter @ Slight20, and online at his website at

You can visit for incredible education and residency opportunities.

Please visit for more info on how to participate in #SummerOfMOVE

May 17, 2017

DJ Wilson, President and CEO of State of Reform, a stakeholder-driven initiative that tries to bridge the gap between the worlds of health care and health policy, stopped by to talk about healthcare from the policy side of the table. In this episode we dive into:

  • DJ's background and the history of State of Reform
  • Why is it so damn hard to agree upon healthcare issues at a personal, state, and federal level?
  • What do clinicians seem to miss the boat on when it comes to healthcare from the policy side of things?
  • The power of language in healthcare
  • Pros and cons of the Affordable Healthcare Act (Obamacare)
  • What are some of the basic changes that will be put in place if the American Healthcare Act (Trumpcare) were to be enacted?
  • What will healthcare look like a decade from now?

We hope you enjoy this episode and don't forget to check out and our other work at

May 10, 2017

In this episode, Nick and I, along with guest co-host Megan Mitchell, SPT, had the pleasure of sitting down with physical therapist, entrepreneur, and leader, Dr. Karen Litzy. We dive into the strategies that have led to Karen becoming an entrepreneur, her views on leadership, and what she has in store for the future.


Check out more about Karen on our website at and at 

May 3, 2017

Eran is the founder and President of VRPhysio Inc. He is an Ex IAF Executive officer and holds a BA in Business Management, Government, and Politics, and an MBA in Entrepreneurship and Innovation Business Administration from Ben Gurion University. Previously, Eran served as initiator and coordinator of the “IAF spinal cord damage prevention program” for air crew personnel and has significant experience in the physical therapy prevention industry. 

VRPhysio develops smart virtual reality tele-rehabilitation platform that gamifies physical therapy and makes it Fun and easy to monitor. By using virtual reality games and interactive guides, VRPhysio devices monitor patients through their prescribed rehab or preventive exercises, measure progress and provide a report to the physical therapist.

Virtual reality based physical therapy provides patients with the continuity of care they need to keep them on track and motivated, on the path to recovery.  The first product- VRPclinic , will be launched in May 2017 as a medical device and will revolutionize the physical therapy industry

Exclusive Offer from VRPhysio: 

For our audience only! Eran has offered a special offer to join the early adaptors package: $300 per month or $3000 per year (instead of $600/$6000) for unlimited use of VRPhysio software.

Using the VR software only 3 times a week for the entire year (for 8 to 15 min/each time billed as CPT code 97110) covers the yearly price of the software. 

If anyone is interested, all they need to do is email with their info and the word Knowbodies to be added to the list of the early adaptors package

Show Notes: 

  • Eran's backstory and PT experience
  • The birth of VRPhysio
  • The weaknesses of PT that virtual reality aims to improve
  • How will VR work? Details of the set up, parameters, and diverse application
  • Is VR a billable medical devise in rehab? is it FDA approved?
  • How can VR make a PT's life easier? 
  • VR in the clinic and in the home, its easier than we may think!
  • Who is VR most effective for? 
  • What equipment is necessary to implement VR software?
  • The team at VRPhysio and the R&D coming in the near future
  • How easy is VR to implement and use as a PT tool?
  • The expansive reach of VR, and what VRPhysio is doing before anyone else
  • Quantifying PT sessions with VR and making treatments more efficient 
  • Listener question: The ethics of VR and its potential to replace PT's?
  • Listener question: Creating a start up on someone else's hardware
  • The challenges and growth, and future of VR Physio