The Knowbodies Podcast

Know. Your. Body. We are two physical therapists passionate about creating a more informed and healthier society through speaking with leading minds in the worlds of health, fitness, and self-development. The goal is to tackle any and all subjects relating to the most dynamic organism on the planet: the human body.
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Feb 28, 2017

In this episode, The Knowbodies are happy to sit down with a Pittsburgh local organization, Orchardview Stables. We sit down with Tessa Maxwell, Katie Bunn, and Mary Kay Soergel of Orchardview Stables to talk about the incredible services offered by the stables as well as some of the personal stories that brought all of these caring specialists together.


Some of the key points that we cover in today’s episode:


  • The foundation of the Equine Assisted Therapy and Adaptive Riding programs at Orchardview.
  • Some of the personal stories that brought Tessa (a special education needs specialist) and Katie (a Physical Therapist specializing in pediatric care) together to collaborate in equine assisted care.
  • What is Hippotherapy vs. Equine Assisted Therapeutic Riding? What do these services entail and what kind of riders do Tessa and Katie work with on a daily basis.
  • Katie breaks down some of the specific elements of therapeutic horse riding including the mechanics of the horse pelvic motion and its affect on postural response, rhythmic movement and posturing for spastic muscle tone, and the unique emotional bond that stems from a close human-animal relationship throughout the course of a therapy.
  • Some personal stories of incredible relationships forged between some of the riders and the therapy horses.
  • Getting to know the Orchardview Staff (horses too!) and some of their responsibilities around the stable.
  • A CALL TO ACTION! – Orchardview offers their services to a broad range of participants and riders at little to no cost! Their non-profit “Orchardview Stables” helps fund their services and upkeep for the horses so that they can continue to provide excellent care without devastating costs to riders. Orchardview thrives through the volunteer support of the community. They offer simple training to all volunteers (from enthusiasts to students to therapists!) in basic horse care and how to aid the riders during their therapy sessions.
  • The therapeutic riders could HUGELY benefit from an overhead lift system to help assist riders onto horseback. The non-profit has already established applications for grants and if you have any information or connections that may help contribute please reach out to the instructors at Orchardview Stables or ourselves at The Knowbodies and we will make it happen!


For more information please check out the website at to learn more about volunteer opportunities or how you can help contribute to an incredible non-profit run by a family organization that cares and work their butts off for their riders!

Feb 24, 2017

In this week’s special #dptstudent episode we talk with current DPT students Dy’mire Jones from South College’s DPT program and Joseph Lipsky from Columbia’s DPT program. Both Dy’mire and Joe have become leaders in the student physical therapist (SPT) community and in this episode we explore what has led them to becoming successful students.

In this episode we discuss:

  • Why Dy’mire and Joe chose the DPT programs they currently attend
  • Do DPT students have enough say in the content of their curriculums?
  • Keys to becoming successful DPT students
  • A conversation about what we like and what we would change about the structure of current DPT programs
  • Where do Joe and Dy’mire see the future of PT and PT education going moving forward?
  • Where you can learn more about Dy’mire and Joe and how to stay connected with them 

We hope you enjoy this episode!

Feb 22, 2017

In this week's episode we sit down with Canadian Field Hockey Olympian and Molecular Biology Ph.D. Candidate Ben Martin. Ben recently participated in the Rio 2016 Olympics with the Canadian Men's National Field Hockey Team. He shares with us his favorite moments of being a part of the Olympics as well as his love-hate relationship with the team's physiotherapist in order to stay in optimal shape for the Games. 

Ben is also a Ph.D. candidate in Molecular Biology at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada where his research focuses on answering a central question of chromatin biology: does histone acetylation occur as a cause or a consequence of transcription?

In this episode we touch on:

  • Ben's experience being a part of the Canadian Men's Field Hockey Olympic Team in Rio this past summer
  • Why Ben has a love-hate relationship with physiotherapy
  • How Ben was able to balance being a Ph.D. student while being an Olympic athlete
  • Understanding Ben's research that focuses on genetic transcription (think coding)
  • The science of epigenetics and the role it plays moving forward with studying our genome
  • Ben's thoughts on genetic modifications including how CRISPR has changed the modifying game
  • Ben's research and future after completing his Ph.D.

You can learn more about Ben and his work by following him on Twitter at @bmart87

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Feb 15, 2017

Dr. Daniel S. Kim is a general dentist in Kennett Square, PA, about 45 minutes southwest of Philadelphia.  His practice has become specialized in comprehensive dental rehabilitation, with focus on the intersections of dentistry and medicine.  Along with general dentistry, Dr. Kim provides dentomandibular physical therapy in order to treat orofacial pain and chronic tension type or migraine headaches and continues to discover more that dentists can do to provide patients with relief from chronic pain conditions.  Outside of practice, he enjoys cooking (and more importantly, eating), enjoying the outdoors with his dog, and traveling!

In this episode we discuss:

  • The evolution of dentistry and it’s uniqueness in the health industry
  • Finding a balance between medicine and customer service
  • How to create an experience that puts the patient first
  • The value of education and behavior change and leveraging each
  • Similarities between PT’s and dentists, and the importance of inter-professional cooperation
  • Healthcare business models and the future of our service industry
  • Flossing, brushing or both?
Feb 8, 2017

“A Positive Perspective To Help The Stressed Or Depressed Student”


A big thanks goes out to Dr. Ryan Smith for joining the Knowbodies once again to deliver a powerful message to the PT and college student community. With research officially listing PT and other healthcare professions as occupations topping the list for burnout, its no surprise that some of the younger, less experienced members of these communities feel the stress early on. Will, Eric, and Nick were so fortunate to sit down with Ryan as he shared his personal experience with depression and how it impacted his professional and emotional well-being. Special recognition goes to Cruz Romero, SPT for his recent publication in The Pulse: “My Biggest Challenge in Physical Therapy School? Imposter Syndrome”. Cruz’s writing really hits home with a lot of students pushing through difficult programs, and is a great read for anyone looking to gain insight and direction to overcome some of the common struggles that may accompany PT school.


Ryan’s biography taken from his website: uMove Physiotherapy & Performance


Ryan graduated from the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point with a bachelors degree in Athletic Training in 2013 and graduated from Ohio State University with a doctoral degree in physical therapy in 2016. 


“My career being involved in rehabilitation and wellness began when I was an athletic trainer as an undergraduate. Even then I developed a niche for being the “rehab guy.” Even when I look back on those times and realize how little I knew I had an ability to connect with those athletes. It wasn’t because of a superior set of skills or vast knowledge but it was because I understood what a recovery from in an injury during an athlete’s season meant to them and I simply found ways to help them.


Fast forward a few years and that same mindset has carried over into how I practice as a physical therapist. My expectations that I thought my internships would be versus what reality gave me were vastly different. For that reason I decided to go out on my own so I could get back to treating the patient in front of me and get involved directly within the community.


That decision has led me to be involved with both a Crossfit Gym and a Strength and Conditioning gym. I now have the ability to not only work with individuals on a daily basis in an environment that they love but I get to work on community issues that I have a passion for. Youth athletes and the increasing injuries that seem to be occurring in them and general population health in which Crossfit is tackling with movement, nutrition and recovery.


If you have ever been interested in joining, starting or learning about a cash based PT practice, then check out our first interview with Dr. Ryan Smith as he breaks down his story, going right into the cash PT market right out of school!


This leads me to now. I’m a small business owner. An entrepreneur. An athletic trainer. A doctor of physical therapy.


I deeply value and understand that it is the entire person in front of me that I have to consider. It’s never just a pain, just a knee, just a shoulder. It’s what that means as a whole.


Thus through continuing education, mentors and most importantly the experiences that my patients give provide me is what keeps me engaged in a constant learning process to better myself. This way when it comes down to it I deliver reassurance, help and a plan that leads to a continuation in training, recovery from injury and a return to activity without hesitation or pain.”


Show Notes:

  • We catch up with Ryan, and discuss his background with depression and how it came about
  • We explore the implications of depression on school work, social life and motivation
  • We identify the process that Ryan experienced that helped him evolve and grow with the challenges he faces
  • We address the stigma’s and social perception of depression and how to talk to someone who may be experiencing these emotions
  • We outline the actionable steps that allow us to embrace the inevitable wave of emotions that occur in life


Follow Ryan on social media at the following places!

Feb 3, 2017

In this roundtable podcast, The Knowbodies have a spirited conversation regarding some of the mobile apps related to fitness, wellness, and nutrition that have helped us set and achieve some of our new year’s resolutions.


If you are looking for extra incentive to walk or run and would ALSO like to serve a great cause by helping to raise money then check out CHARITYMILES or WOOFTRAX for a unique way to change your daily walk with your dog or lunchtime stroll into a charitable cause.


For a more running focused app with a fun story based twist, maybe ZOMBIES RUN! Is more up your alley. ZOMBIES mixes short audio book story segments with your own motivational music (and little something extra that I won’t spoil here) to create a motivational and addicting change of pace.


Rounding up the fitness apps is a nod to the fantastic minds at DAREBEE.COM and their PANDORA role-playing fitness game that allows the user to participate in countless physical fitness challenges in order to progress the story.


From a nutritional standpoint, we throw our support behind FOODUCATE and FITMENCOOK for their affordable apps and the information that they provide. FOODUCATE takes complex nutritional concepts and breaks them down into digestible tidbits. Additionally, FOODUCATE has a scan/search option that you can use on your household foods or when grocery shopping to provide a snapshot of the nutritional content of foods and even provides a grade scale to help you make healthy food choices.


FITMENCOOK is a cheap encyclopedia of recipes that take the complexity out of healthy cooking. With FITMENCOOK you can categorize the recipes into diet specific goals (i.e. low- carb, high protein, low sugar) and even organize your next grocery-shopping trip to help you plan ahead for some healthy cooking for the week.


Healthy habits are tough to maintain and good habits are often more than simply checking off the list. Often it takes mental toughness and realistic goal setting in order to keep a healthy habit rolling once the stresses of life start to pile up.


Some mobile apps like APLANFORLIVING and HABITICA can help provide the structure and reward feedback that might just help you keep your resolutions through the good times and the tough times. APLANFORLIVING is the modern day digital diary with pre-organized sections for assessing your mood, practicing gratitude, and even voicing your frustrations. Even for the non-diary users, this app provides all the structure and requires so little time that it might just be what you need to help improve your mood and assess your stressors.


HABITICA is the final app we cover in this episode and it may be one that you have already come across. HABITICA is an enormous online community of users that take a retro-style gaming approach to helping you set and achieve your goals. HABITICA bases your experience around building and upgrading a character in your likeness that thrives when you enter daily to-do lists, refine healthy habits, and complete pre-organized challenges (e.g. daily walking, reading, or self-reflection). In contrast, if you allow these goals to go on uncompleted, your sprite suffers the consequences and could lose life or points for even more motivation to keep your resolutions! If you are motivated by games and list-making, this app is the one you need to help organize and refine your habits!


Take a listen to hear more about these fantastic apps as well as some personal stories from The Knowbodies on our experiences with mobile apps and goal-setting.


Until next time,

It’s your body, know it!


Feb 1, 2017


This week we are humbled to release our newest episode "Making Sense of Chronic Pain" with guest, Dr. Joe Tatta, PT, DPT from New York City. Dr. Tatta has been a practicing Physical Therapist for over 2 decades and has recently authored an Amazon Best-Selling book, "Heal Your Pain Now: A Revolutionary Program to Reset Your Brain and Body for a Pain-Free Life". Enjoy this powerful and eye-opening episode with the insightful and kind-hearted Dr. Joe Tatta.


From Dr. Tatta’s website

Dr. Joe Tatta is a doctor of physical therapy, board certified nutrition specialist and functional medicine practitioner who specializes in treating persistent pain and lifestyle-related musculoskeletal, metabolic and autoimmune health issues.  He is the host of The Healing Pain Podcast designed to broaden the conversation around natural strategies toward solving persistent pain. Dr. Tatta is the author of the best selling book Heal Your Pain Now; A Revolutionary Program to Reset Your Brain and Body for a Pain-Free Life by Da Capo Press. He is currently in private practice and also provides Online Health Consulting to help people achieve a pain-free life free from chronic disease.  Learn more by visiting

Show Notes

Topics touched on during this episode:

  • Tatta’s reasons behing writing “Heal Your Pain Now”
  • The initial challenges of confronting chronic pain
  • The connection between psychological stress and chronic pain. What is pain catastrophizing?
  • The role of nutrition and our GI system when it comes to chronic inflammation
  • The role of Physical Therapists in treating chronic pain. Do we have a role? How do we best approach treating chronic pain?
  • Dr. Tatta’s personal history dealing with Polymorphic Light Eruption, a skin condition that led him to using cortisone, which ultimately led to chronic pain. Dr. Tatta shares this story that started his journey into studying chronic conditions.
  • How nutrition and supplements have played a role in Dr. Tatta curbing his symptoms
  • Tatta’s approach to taking a solid history when it comes to nutrition. What have you eaten the past 3 days?
  • What is a ketogenic diet?
  • Tatta’s final thoughts on the epidemic of chronic pain that we as a society are facing

Follow Dr. Joe Tatta on Social Media

Twitter: @DrJoeTatta